Malibu Entry #12

Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:30 am

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I Deleted this Journal.
NO, not because the comment section was hijacked by meaningless controversy; I swear... not. Call it a "SideKick" mishap. (That's a personal device - T-Mobil) Anyway, today, 2 days later than when this post was originally made, we were walking around the Promenade in Santa Monica. The girls were shopping and I hate to shop, (though I bought 3 western shirts from Old Navy for $5 each yesterday) so... I was kinda bored.
I was just going to add a bit to journal #13, I wrote some more... hit submit found out I wasn't logged in, copied the text, went back to Trolleywood, logged in, scrolled down, hit edit and prompty pasted in the entire contents of edit #13 into the entry right below #13, which was Malibu Entry #12. I tried to go back (undo, return, back space, etc.) on my SideKick and find the old text, but... alas, it was too late. It's caused my brain a considerable amount of grief. I'm really bummed. I'll toss the images back up... that's about it. Thanks and sorry. boyd

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No secrets on this song... it's all over the internet, thanks to my keen sense of video crapturing... u know, Eisley's live show clips. But start thinking of this pic, when you think of this song from now on.



















I'll do my best to add back in some filler copy - or whatever I can remember about this post. Does anyone have a copy of my blatherings?

The controversial comment section all stemmed from the fact that i mentioned, in passing, that, among many instruments, a Balinesian Gamelan was used. I should add, now... in one song, modestly; possible that none of you would even know where or what it was. But I make no excuses for the band or the producer of this unfolding record. It's the best thing Eisley has ever done. The critical comment that first emerged took everyone by surprise and resulted in 75 little arguments. Well, that's the dynamic of journals... forums; So, I say, NO matter. I'll try to reconstruct something about my journal. Thanks guys. boyd

99 Comments

Catey
So ICBTFY has been rough recorded? I hope so, I love that song, it's one of my favourite post-RN tracks played on tour.

posted Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:13 pm
boyd
What part of humanity takes cheap shots at real people within the context of their world... and actually feels good about themselves afterward (reference Do Not Be Afraid's attack on Richard for conspiring with Eisley to broaden the sound pallet beyond guitars, key's and drums)? This is Eisley's record - though Richard's thumbprint... his brilliance is all over it. It's a team effort, with Eisley critically involved at every stage... within every nuance. For example - right now, Richard is recording a Trombone part that Stacy wrote. (I hope D.N.B.A. spares us - in the event that he hate's brass (I AM afraid).

The Gamelan is just one of many lush layers in a song; Plus, it's what the band wanted. (btw - they're furious at these assaultive blatherings). I guess I won't counter-attack Do Not Be Afraid's resistance to certain world instruments or ridicule him for his insistence that Richard is a worthless film composer, though I strongly disagree.

No, it's not Do Not Be Afraid's opinion that's the problem... It's his character.

posted Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:24 pm
Miss Pine
Boyd's comment basically says it all. And I know that most of us cannot wait for Eisley's new album and are supporting them 100%!

posted Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:35 pm
LeslieAnnLevine
Confused i for one was excited at the appearance of the gamelan.

um, well, anyway, don't let DNBA's pessimistic views on your creative flow get you down. there are thousands of us behind you all, fully supporting your decisions on this record. eisley, in my book, has yet to disappoint, and i'm sure with richard, from what i can tell, it's only going to make the eisley experience that much sweeter. like..tooth rottenting sweet. and it will be all worth it. i'd trade my teeth for eisley, anyday!

posted Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:46 pm
boyd
Ok, that was Boyd uncorked. On a happier note, YES, "I Could Be There For You" will certainly be on this record. The song is so amazing. The record is amazing.... in my opinion. Well, except for... record is pretty much a gamelan fest. We're trying to replace vocals with gamelan parts right now. Richard threw out all the keyboards and used something he created called a GamelTron; and tomorrow, he's going to put digitize guitar parts and replace (note for note) with gamelan... (the Gamel-Tar he calls it). yeah, he keeps saying, "Can we name the record - 'Step into the Gamelan'?". We're all pretty stoked... he wants see if Yanni can come record some GamelTron parts himself.

posted Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:52 pm
LeslieAnnLevine
Laughing that's priceless. ^^^

posted Fri Nov 03, 2006 2:05 pm
do not be afraid.
"...Do Not Be Afraid's attack on Richard for conspiring with Eisley to broaden the sound pallet beyond guitars, key's and drums?" - boyd

i don't mind any band "broadening the sound pallet", and that was not my criticism. my criticism was how you chose to do it. simply recording a song that's just like all of your other songs, but misappropriating a "world music" instruments to give it some "flair", or "ambience", especially ones so overused and misused, isn't "broadening the sound pallet", it's simply continuing the overuse and misuse of the instruments, and the watering-down of a perfectly valid musical art-form which you're likely entirely ignorant of. that's what bothers me.

"...his brilliance is all over it." - boyd

well, we all know how i feel about that, and it does worry me. i think every single member of eisley has more talent than a million richard gibbs combined (and, unfortunately, there are about a million richard gibbs in hollywood right now...)

"For example - right now, Richard is recording a Trombone part that Stacy wrote. (I hope D.N.B.A. spares us - in the event that he hate's brass (I AM afraid)." - boyd

actually the trombone is one of my absolute favorite instruments, both for it's sound, and the incredible range of expression it provides, and i think it would work wonderfully within the context of eisley's music if used properly. i just hope it is used properly...

and do you know how many people have used that "i AM afraid" bit? i almost expect it these days...

"btw - they're furious at these assaultive blatherings. I guess I won't counter-attack Do Not Be Afraid's resistance to certain world instruments or ridicule him for his insistence that Richard is a worthless film composer, though I strongly disagree." - boyd

"assaultive blatherings"? well, frankly, i'd consider that an "assaultive blathering" myself! but, that's me...

i'd actually prefer a serious debate about the points i made to a flat dismissal of them, and my character, which i frankly find to be as insulting as anything i posted. and i'd also like you to point out a single good film richard gibbs has been involved with that was improved by his music. not as a challenge, simply out of a desire to hear this great music you seem to be hearing, and i can't find anywhere! i looked at his credit's list, and i've listened to his scores, and i can't find a single one that i can even respect! it's just the sort of inconsequential, idiotic, boring, and cliche, music film-makers put in movies when they can't be bothered actually trying, scoring the sort of inconsequential, idiotic, boring, and cliche, films studios put out when they can't be bothered actually trying.


"No, it's not Do Not Be Afraid's opinion that's the problem... It's his character." - boyd

and, of course, you know very well about my character, right? because you know me, right? i don't know you, and you don't know me, and i think a general assault on my character like that shows a lack of character on your part.

i know that i can go overboard sometimes, and i probably did there a bit, and probably said some things i shouldn't, or should have put better, etcetera, but everyone does that sometimes. i can also see, reading what i wrote over again, how much harsher it reads on paper than it did in my head at the time. i certainly wasn't trying to be mean, i was simply expressing how i thought, and how i felt, and did it the best way i could at the time, even if it wasn't the "best" way in general...

"Boyd's comment basically says it all. And I know that most of us cannot wait for Eisley's new album and are supporting them 100%!" - Miss Pine

and you could definitely add my to the group of people who can't wait for the new album! but as far as supporting them 100% goes, well... i don't support anyone 100%, including myself! every record eisley has put out has a lot of good, and a lot of bad, and while the good usually outweighs the bad, i don't go around pretending like the bad doesn't exist, and won't with this record either.

posted Fri Nov 03, 2006 2:14 pm
CUBSWINWORLDSERIES
Does Do Not be afraid have some vested interest in this album or the band? Why do you think you need to go on and on in the journals about everything you don't like? Why don't you PM your views to boyd, and let the band follow the creative direction they want to follow, and spin the record how they want to spin it? They do in the end have to live with the final product. Surely you wouldn't have the audacity to go post on a big-name band's website everything you hate about their forthcoming album, would you? Oh, that's right. No other band in the universe gives you the access to the inner-workings that Eisley does and you therefore would not have anything to complain about to any other band about their upcoming album. Why all the hostility? Why do you think you need to publicly voice what you hate about the direction the album is taking, from boyd's point of view.

posted Fri Nov 03, 2006 2:37 pm
do not be afraid.
as i see it this an open discussion about the post boyd made, and the post boyd made is about the album, and so it's our right, and our purpose here, to openly discuss the album being made as well, and that includes the good, and the bad. i've posted about things i loved, and things i hated, and everything else in between, and that's the entire point of this, isn't it? if it was just meant to be a bunch of people posting "great pictures! i love eisley! boyd, you're the best!", well, it would be a pretty useless comments section. i also wasn't trying to be hostle, although i understand that i came off that way, as i often seem to on the internet, although i usually don't mean to (usually...)

although, if it makes you happy...

great pictures! i love eisley! boyd, you're the best!

posted Fri Nov 03, 2006 2:48 pm
Weston
to: do not be afraid
without dirty there is no clean, without hate there is no love, without pain there is no joy, without loving people there are only hateful people, ...lets just say you're helping to us appriciate the loving people here.

posted Fri Nov 03, 2006 2:48 pm