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 Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:10 pm 
austin20011 wrote: My post didn't make any difference to you? It's not anyone's fault that you are soul-dead except you're own. Everyone except you has responded positively. Maybe you are part of the problem, because I live in South Austin, almost in the very block you're referring to... but I have reached a point in my life that now I just don't want to hear from anyone unless they have something to say that will truly benefit me. Take you for example... what do you actually contribute to the world? Call it guarded, call it what you will, but I never meet anyone anymore who can tell me anything I don't already know. It is a strange place to be. I say this not out of arrogance, but out of of a longing for something more. I'm really in pain and I am suffering, and I feel a pain I have never even heard about, and I want out of here, but my daughter won't let me go. This is all killing me. I really think you might want to get to know me a little better before you start calling me soul-dead. Also, I don't think I responded negatively at all. The only semi-negative thing I said was about the thread title, but I think it was justified. My contributions to the world are admittedly paltry, but that doesn't mean I do not care or do not have something to offer. I think many of us just see so many problems that we do not know where to start. I actually sort of see where you are coming from, but I think that it why your remarks didn't have much impact on me. They were ideas that I already understood. To me it sounds like you need a change of venue, but where would you go? I think we should meet. Btw, Starnothing, thanks for coming to my defense. I certainly wasn't trying to be mean. JD _________________ "Well, hopefully that's our job, to strap rockets onto everything." - Adam Savage, Mythbusters |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:20 pm
starnothing wrote: it's all good, yo. The bit about the infomercial is crazy. I like it. What do you do? |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:36 pm
I really think you might want to get to know me a little better before you start calling me soul-dead. Also, I don't think I responded negatively at all. The only semi-negative thing I said was about the thread title, but I think it was justified. My contributions to the world are admittedly paltry, but that doesn't mean I do not care or do not have something to offer. I think many of us just see so many problems that we do not know where to start. I actually sort of see where you are coming from, but I think that it why your remarks didn't have much impact on me. They were ideas that I already understood. To me it sounds like you need a change of venue, but where would you go? I think we should meet. Sorry, but I've come to expect only the worst here in what was once my home once apon a time. You can e-mail me at mhays8100@yahoo.com and give me your ph#. I work for a law firm in Westlake... art doesn't pay all th bills, and yes, I know.. 'attorney in westlake' doesn't send a positive message.. I know.. bad vibes.. but that really doesn't have anything to do with my situation. I admit that I am far too over educated (my parents are both teachers) but I'm actually a good person to know. E-mail me. |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:12 pm
madsenfan35 wrote: austin20011 wrote: Personally, I prefer the west coast and that's it. So many forward thinking people gravitate there. It's impossible to understand it unless you're there. I want to move back, but everytime I mention it, my daughter goes into a rage.. I've tried to convince her to move back there with me, but she won't do it because she's too scared to relocate to an unfamiliar place. So I'm stuck between my love for my daughter and my love for where I really belong. Talk about drama. I'm from L.A. and my Government teacher told my class last year that we would have to watch out when we entered the "real world" and got out of the west coast. Because people would be very conservative and closed-minded and that they would find our way of thinking to be stupid and illogical. We said that they should all come to L.A. (or any other big metropolitan area) and broaden their minds a bit. I've never been to Texas or anywhere in the South, but I've always wanted to. That is simply profound. I think you're Government teacher and I need to get together and talk. It's so true, you know.. here in the South it's like O.K., someone comes walking in the door, and it's like, O.K., here's stupid redneck Number 58542.. I know that sounds mean, but don't look at me- I didn't make them. I'm afraid that I will have to leave my daughter behind... as much as I love her. The only hope I have is that she will eventually realize where she is and follow me. |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:17 pm
[quote="TheAntrider"] austin20011 wrote: TheAntrider wrote: Welcome. 
I take exception to that "flat" remark, only because there are hills and trees in East Texas. Have you ever seen The Last Picture Show? I haven't. I probably should, though ... That image under your name.. where is that from? It's haunting. |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:26 pm
looneycustom wrote: I've been to the west coast a few times, although I was in uniform transferring an inmate. It wasnt that open minded. Actually, everyone I saw was a bunch of stoners. If thats what you like to call open minded and intellectually advanced, ok. Although the Hooters was something only dreams are made of. You mad me laugh HARD. Thank you. I know, you're first impression of L.A. is not going to make any sense at all. It's definately not for everyone.. (I don't smoke weed by the way.. I'm more the mixed drink kind of guy) all I'm saying is that L.A. is where I belong and I'm going to have leave Tx. even though it's going to tear me apart, leaving my daughter behind because we are so close. |
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:16 am
austin20011 wrote: looneycustom wrote: I've been to the west coast a few times, although I was in uniform transferring an inmate. It wasnt that open minded. Actually, everyone I saw was a bunch of stoners. If thats what you like to call open minded and intellectually advanced, ok. Although the Hooters was something only dreams are made of. You mad me laugh HARD. Thank you. I know, you're first impression of L.A. is not going to make any sense at all. It's definately not for everyone.. (I don't smoke weed by the way.. I'm more the mixed drink kind of guy) all I'm saying is that L.A. is where I belong and I'm going to have leave Tx. even though it's going to tear me apart, leaving my daughter behind because we are so close. Well, I'm glad you got a giggle out of what I said. Now how about stopping the Texas Bashing? KINKY FOR GOVERNER!!!  _________________ I shot the Sheriff And the deputy I'm one up on Marley |
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:32 am
austin20011 wrote: Part of my admiration for Eisley is that they apparently blocked all of this out and moved on. I find it incredibly funny and ironic that the image Austin20011 has created for himself in his own mind about Eisley is so very far from reality. The reality is, Eisley band members encompass most of the beliefs, attitudes, values, etc. that Austin20011 tries to convince us are wrong! |
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 2:40 am
KyleRossP wrote: Quote: austin20011 wrote: Part of my admiration for Eisley is that they apparently blocked all of this out and moved on. I find it incredibly funny and ironic that the image Austin20011 has created for himself in his own mind about Eisley is so very far from reality. The reality is, Eisley band members encompass most of the beliefs, attitudes, values, etc. that Austin20011 tries to convince us are wrong! hmmn...I'm not sure if I agree with that statement. People assume things about Eisley, and that's to be expected. The main point of Austin20011's post, was how much he appreciates EISLEY's artform over lots of things that just don't stand out to him. As a family, we really have carved out our own way and not gone with the flow. Texas has allowed us that luxury. Living anywhere, in any state, there are pros and cons. There is dumbness in every state! If you have come to a place in your life where you are truly unhappy with Texas, maybe for your sake and happiness, you should consider a move. I do understand the dilemma with your daughter. I am a parent, so I sympathize with you. I will say this....there are things in life that are just hard pills to swallow. (I'm sure you know this.) If your need/desire to be near your daughter is greater, than the hard pill is staying in Texas. Having said that, I have had to live out plenty of situations that fall into the category of, "if life serves you lemons, make lemonade". If you feel like you cannot move away from your daughter at this time, maybe you could try changing some other things in your life that will help ease the unhappiness of where you live. Presidents come and go. The hills go up and down. Life is a big rollercoaster, and it seems like you are on a downward slope. Here's to the upward curve  (raises glass in the air!)
I hope that you can work through this thing, and with all sincerity, thank you for loving Eisley.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 2:44 am
Kimbrtones wrote: KyleRossP wrote:
Quote: austin20011 wrote: Part of my admiration for Eisley is that they apparently blocked all of this out and moved on. I find it incredibly funny and ironic that the image Austin20011 has created for himself in his own mind about Eisley is so very far from reality. The reality is, Eisley band members encompass most of the beliefs, attitudes, values, etc. that Austin20011 tries to convince us are wrong! hmmn...I'm not sure if I agree with that statement. People assume things about Eisley, and that's to be expected. The main point of Austin20011's post, was how much he appreciates EISLEY's artform over lots of things that just don't stand out to him. As a family, we really have carved out our own way and not gone with the flow. Texas has allowed us that luxury. Living anywhere, in any state, there are pros and cons. There is dumbness in every state! If you have come to a place in your life where you are truly unhappy with Texas, maybe for your sake and happiness, you should consider a move. I do understand the dilemma with your daughter. I am a parent, so I sympathize with you. I will say this....there are things in life that are just hard pills to swallow. (I'm sure you know this.) If your need/desire to be near your daughter is greater, than the hard pill is staying in Texas. Having said that, I have had to live out plenty of situations that fall into the category of, "if life serves you lemons, make lemonade". If you feel like you cannot move away from your daughter at this time, maybe you could try changing some other things in your life that will help ease the unhappiness of where you live. Presidents come and go. The hills go up and down. Life is a big rollercoaster, and it seems like you are on a downward slope. Here's to the upward curve (raises glass in the air!)
I hope that you can work through this thing, and with all sincerity, thank you for loving Eisley. well said, kim. _________________ Take it easy; love nothing. |
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:56 am
Sorry Kim, hope my post didn't offend you personally in any way, i was only trying to point out that Austin20011 proceeded to , in a very closed-minded way, decribed all of Texas as backward thinking, closed-minded, bible-beating, Bush-supporting idiots. Then he said that he appreciated Eisley for getting "past all that"... Last time i checked, Eisley was very religious, Jonathan recently left the band due to his religious convictions, and i'm pretty darned sure some or most of the Eisley family are Bush supporters, and support at least some of the values the Bush administration supports...... while i would never describe you as closed-minded or backward thinking at all, i do believe he insulted you without knowng what he said. Eisley certainly subscribes to some of the 'values" which he uses to put down Texas with..... I also was amazed by the way he changed the topic from "i like Eisley" into "I'm sad and whining about my daughter not automatically and blindly believeing like i do, or wanting what i do"....and then blaming it on Texas and it's closed-minded people, instead of dealing with it properly. |
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 4:46 am
To be honest, I question why life is so hard on him here. No one is forcing him to associate with rednecks, and there are just as many vacuous people in L.A. as there are ignorant people living around Austin. Not to mention, last time I checked there is practically nothing but yuppies and preppies in Westlake. Where do you hang out when you aren't at work? Also, if California is so great, why did they elect the Govenator? I just don't understand why it is so painful. That having been said, since my return, I have had zero luck in finding a true kindred to spend time and conversation with (at least in Austin). However, that is a far cry from saying that my life might as well end. I may just be more self-sufficient than some, but that may just be the luck-of-the-draw. I suppose my being so strange isn't helping matters at all. I know lots and lots of people, but they all seem to have such narrow focuses in their lives. I know lots of musicians, and they are mostly just space cadets and flaky. I know lots of hipsters, and they all seem to be quite wrapped up in themselves and their scene. I know lots of rednecks, and while they are very nice people, holding a really deep conversation is tantamount to the impossible. Life would be so much easier if I could just conform, but life is difficult and I can accept that as a condition of my being alive. It really isn't that tough after all. Then again, like I said, I am pretty strange. JD _________________ "Well, hopefully that's our job, to strap rockets onto everything." - Adam Savage, Mythbusters |
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 6:58 am
[quote="KyleRossP"]Sorry Kim, hope my post didn't offend you personally in any way, i was only trying to point out that Austin20011 proceeded to , in a very closed-minded way, decribed all of Texas as backward thinking, closed-minded, bible-beating, Bush-supporting idiots. Then he said that he appreciated Eisley for getting "past all that"... Last time i checked, Eisley was very religious, Jonathan recently left the band due to his religious convictions, and i'm pretty darned sure some or most of the Eisley family are Bush supporters, and support at least some of the values the Bush administration supports...... while i would never describe you as closed-minded or backward thinking at all, i do believe he insulted you without knowng what he said. Eisley certainly subscribes to some of the 'values" which he uses to put down Texas with..... Oooo..kaching!!! You just hit the nail right on the head. I talk to my mother every day now- but she will never understand anything because she is insulated in the Bible Belt. I know it's going to make you mad, but you're probably a drooling zombie staring at the wall- the typical heshemale of today ... but you will never understand, because you simply do not share the same values as the people who create the world in which you live. |
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:14 am
jdstories wrote: To be honest, I question why life is so hard on him here. No one is forcing him to associate with rednecks, and there are just as many vacuous people in L.A. as there are ignorant people living around Austin. Not to mention, last time I checked there is practically nothing but yuppies and preppies in Westlake. Where do you hang out when you aren't at work? Also, if California is so great, why did they elect the Govenator? I just don't understand why it is so painful.
That having been said, since my return, I have had zero luck in finding a true kindred to spend time and conversation with (at least in Austin). However, that is a far cry from saying that my life might as well end. I may just be more self-sufficient than some, but that may just be the luck-of-the-draw. I suppose my being so strange isn't helping matters at all. I know lots and lots of people, but they all seem to have such narrow focuses in their lives. I know lots of musicians, and they are mostly just space cadets and flaky. I know lots of hipsters, and they all seem to be quite wrapped up in themselves and their scene. I know lots of rednecks, and while they are very nice people, holding a really deep conversation is tantamount to the impossible. Life would be so much easier if I could just conform, but life is difficult and I can accept that as a condition of my being alive. It really isn't that tough after all. Then again, like I said, I am pretty strange. JD Well, this is all easily dismissed in just a few seconds. You've never lived in L.A. or had any interests that drew drew you there. You are the typical droid. |
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:19 am
austin20011 wrote: That is simply profound. I think you're Government teacher and I need to get together and talk. It's so true, you know.. here in the South it's like O.K., someone comes walking in the door, and it's like, O.K., here's stupid redneck Number 58542.. I know that sounds mean, but don't look at me- I didn't make them. I'm afraid that I will have to leave my daughter behind... as much as I love her. The only hope I have is that she will eventually realize where she is and follow me. How old is your daughter? If she's old enough to be living on her own, then it's okay if you take off your separate ways. You have to go after what you want. _________________ - Jessica ------------------------------------------------------- "So many bands are like painters standing in front of their paintings going, 'Look at me, I did this.' It's like, 'Get out the way, I can't see it.'" - Dougie Payne, bassist of Travis ================================ http://www.xanga.com/madsenfan35 |
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