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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:33 am 
patrock wrote: marshking wrote: patrock wrote: I think its funny how different the process can be. Circa Survive spent about a month and a half recording in January. By last month it was all done and the release date was set. There seems to be a lot more crap to do with this Eisley album. Well, you have to note the difference between crap and Eisley. Anyone can write a Circa Survive song, and come up with some of that hip scene artwork with the fancy writing and a balloonwoman. Just kidding. I think. (But keep in mind different labels' pressure, though WB... Equal Vision... yeah? Yeah) Yes, you should be joking. That band has talent. More than Eisley and I'm willing to admit it. Writing lyrics and music. They are just better at what they do. Amazing geetarers. I think I just vomitted. Haha I'm kidding completely. I never get into it with people about music, and I've never really heard much of CS's stuff but I've heard good things. But yeah I've realized throughout life that even if I don't like a band it's pointless to argue with a fan about the band. _________________ Previously user holland, 2005. Either my account became inactive from posting inactivity or I just downright forgot my password. |
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:34 am
marshking wrote: patrock wrote: marshking wrote: patrock wrote: I think its funny how different the process can be. Circa Survive spent about a month and a half recording in January. By last month it was all done and the release date was set. There seems to be a lot more crap to do with this Eisley album. Well, you have to note the difference between crap and Eisley. Anyone can write a Circa Survive song, and come up with some of that hip scene artwork with the fancy writing and a balloonwoman. Just kidding. I think. (But keep in mind different labels' pressure, though WB... Equal Vision... yeah? Yeah) Yes, you should be joking. That band has talent. More than Eisley and I'm willing to admit it. Writing lyrics and music. They are just better at what they do. Amazing geetarers. I think I just vomitted. Haha I'm kidding completely. I never get into it with people about music, and I've never really heard much of CS's stuff but I've heard good things. But yeah I've realized throughout life that even if I don't like a band it's pointless to argue with a fan about the band. +1. It's also because I'm right.  (I am)
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:42 am
patrock wrote: marshking wrote: patrock wrote: marshking wrote: patrock wrote: I think its funny how different the process can be. Circa Survive spent about a month and a half recording in January. By last month it was all done and the release date was set. There seems to be a lot more crap to do with this Eisley album. Well, you have to note the difference between crap and Eisley. Anyone can write a Circa Survive song, and come up with some of that hip scene artwork with the fancy writing and a balloonwoman. Just kidding. I think. (But keep in mind different labels' pressure, though WB... Equal Vision... yeah? Yeah) Yes, you should be joking. That band has talent. More than Eisley and I'm willing to admit it. Writing lyrics and music. They are just better at what they do. Amazing geetarers. I think I just vomitted. Haha I'm kidding completely. I never get into it with people about music, and I've never really heard much of CS's stuff but I've heard good things. But yeah I've realized throughout life that even if I don't like a band it's pointless to argue with a fan about the band. +1. It's also because I'm right. (I am)Has no one told you??? Nora's ALWAYS right. _________________ Previously user holland, 2005. Either my account became inactive from posting inactivity or I just downright forgot my password. |
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:43 am
marshking wrote: patrock wrote: marshking wrote: patrock wrote: marshking wrote: patrock wrote: I think its funny how different the process can be. Circa Survive spent about a month and a half recording in January. By last month it was all done and the release date was set. There seems to be a lot more crap to do with this Eisley album. Well, you have to note the difference between crap and Eisley. Anyone can write a Circa Survive song, and come up with some of that hip scene artwork with the fancy writing and a balloonwoman. Just kidding. I think. (But keep in mind different labels' pressure, though WB... Equal Vision... yeah? Yeah) Yes, you should be joking. That band has talent. More than Eisley and I'm willing to admit it. Writing lyrics and music. They are just better at what they do. Amazing geetarers. I think I just vomitted. Haha I'm kidding completely. I never get into it with people about music, and I've never really heard much of CS's stuff but I've heard good things. But yeah I've realized throughout life that even if I don't like a band it's pointless to argue with a fan about the band. +1. It's also because I'm right. (I am)Has no one told you??? Nora's ALWAYS right. I knew that already. Most people should. 
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:30 am
voxear wrote: Ouch. Then would you say it was a bad idea to "test" or unveil early versions of songs? It probably brought people out to the Final Noise tour and other recent shows. I don't know, this is confusing to me. Room Noises had a lot of previously known songs... could it cause so many casualties? Is music meant to age and peel off of us that easily? _________________ my name's carrie and i love a good sandwich so if you have a sandwich, come roll with me! 
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:34 am
I don't like Circa Survive at all. Not one bit. Sorry, Nora. I don't think this album is taking all that long. Maybe it's cos I don't read the journals so I don't experience the anticipation. I've heard a few song clips, and I liked them musically more then Room Noises stuff. I didn't really note or pay attention to lyrics. It's all preferences. I don't have too many expectations right now, so I don't think I'll be all that disappointed. If I don't like the album, who cares? I'm one person. Important thing is that the band feels fully satisfied with the album. Ultimately, it should be an honest reflection of themselves and their growth. Whether or not you like the direction they are growing and evolving doesn't matter so much as if they like it. |
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:40 am
loveisachemical wrote: I don't like Circa Survive at all. Not one bit. Sorry, Nora. I'm so offended! Now let me go cry becuase other people's music opinions affect me so much! |
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:15 pm
marshking wrote: And um in comparison to Brand New's newest CD, this has not been pushed back a lot or had a lot of problems. I'd take 2 months over a year or so anyday. Especially since Eisley's cd will actually sound good and not like "wow, I'm trying to be obscure and trying to lose my oldest fans in the process" i.e. Brand New. Brand New's cd had weird artwork and was in a sleeve... unappealing. They had to change so much and push so much due to unhappiness surrounding leaks, personal crises, etc. Now that's really an album that was pushed back too long for no good reason, IMO. And I love Brand New to death but... yeah. the devil and god  Not to get off topic, but it's funny that you mention that. I was just talking to my wife (leighish... who is a huge Brand New fan) about how I felt about the new album. I was never much of a fan before. I fact, I can hardly listen to songs on Your Favorite Weapon. Don't care for it at all. Deja Entendu is far better, but most of the songs still don't do a whole lot for me. The Devil And God, however, is the first Brand New album I feel I can really enjoy. To me, it's just that good. Of course, the stylistic differences that are turning off some of Brand New's oldest fans might be the same ones that are getting my attention. Anyway, I can't imagine any band creating new music for the purpose of alienating their fan base. I take that back... I'm sure it happens. But I doubt it happens as often as people accuse. If they were really interested in alienating their fans, I think this most recent tour would look a lot different. Brand New has been playing some of their older standards like Jude Law, The Shower Scene, and The No Seatbelt song... as well as most of the Deja album... and of course, songs from the new album. They could have easily omitted a good portion of those older tracks... tossed in a couple of different songs... and still have a sufficiently long set. But they didn't. To me, that doesn't sound like the actions of a band who is trying to lose their oldest fans. Bands will always grow and change... and sometimes people will be turned off. Doesn't mean it's done on purpose. Sorry about that digression. I'll get back to the topic of Eisley in a later post. _________________ "If you're a ninja, every day is like friday." -Jamie M. |
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:18 pm
marshking wrote: And um in comparison to Brand New's newest CD, this has not been pushed back a lot or had a lot of problems. I'd take 2 months over a year or so anyday. Especially since Eisley's cd will actually sound good and not like "wow, I'm trying to be obscure and trying to lose my oldest fans in the process" i.e. Brand New. Brand New's cd had weird artwork and was in a sleeve... unappealing. They had to change so much and push so much due to unhappiness surrounding leaks, personal crises, etc. Now that's really an album that was pushed back too long for no good reason, IMO. And I love Brand New to death but... yeah. the devil and god hi, i'm an old brand new fan and i haven't found one hint of them trying to push me away. there's so much more guitar quality in the new album and if i want to go hear jesse sing about girls again, i can go listen to the first two albums. it sounds like there's been "fans" complaining about another band not being exactly what they want them to be. +1 to rob's points too. (oh and i am ESTATIC that i spent my 8000th post defending brand nizzle, yo) |
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:41 pm
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:56 pm
hisownshot wrote: Room Noises wasn't much different, I got the album the day of release cause I was excited for a favorite band to come out with their first full length. It didn't last long in my CD player, and I haven't pulled it out of the case in at least 9 months. I just hope that doesn't happen with this album, too. Just to compare, are there a lot of CDs that last in your player for that long... like two years or more? Is that common for you? Of course, no one could expect Combinations to remain in perpetual rotation... this or any record. I just don't like the idea that music is kind of like those series we used to read as kids. You race through them but those skinny paperbacks end up in a box six months later. How realistic are people's expectations here? I guess I'm too young to be able to tell, but it should become clearer as things move along. Can anyone comment on this from their own experience... anyone who can honestly say that music has truly stuck with them over gaps of time? |
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:08 pm
Maybe I interpreted you incorrectly voxear, but I think many of us can listen to many albums from years ago. I'm only 18 but I could listen to the Strokes' "Is This It" today and everyday and that album is going on 6 or 7 years now. There's many many many others that I've listened to for years that I could still listen to and enjoy. But no, I couldn't listen to Room Noises every day. I haven't listened to it fully through for months. It's a little too emotional for that I think, and I doubt Combinations will be any less moving. |
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:49 am
Interesting and honest thread. My concerns are these: Is Eisley seen as a geezer/classic already-passe band? Most press mentions of Eisley are in the 'XXX opened for Eisley" category. This is very strange-them being referenced like Coldplay, or Switch-foot, as if they were (already!) pushed into the grand past and being imitated in annoying ways. I think their association with NFG and TBS adds to this perception (in good ways). I was talking with a kid the other day, and (honestly) he said 'Eisley was from the early '90's, right?' It wasn't that he was pretending he knew the band either, he knew specific songs from Room Noises. True, though, this could work to the band's benefit. MUCH better than the 'Texas Christian Aryan Family Band' label (no wonder Boyd doesn't sleep at night, mulling all this over) Secondly: If WB and band management actually DO their jobs properly, the later release will be justified. A lot of promises were broken with Room Noises and I hope they won't be broken again. Room Noises promotion/PR was (IMO) TOTALLY fan driven. I really didn't see WB putting forward much money or effort. I remember standing next to some Label TFT (trust fund twit) at the Yahoo show in NYC, and she was blathering on and on about how SHE was responsible for Eisley doing that tour. Only out of respect for Boyd did I keep my big mouth shut. It was an army kid in Afghanistan, and a (starving, non TFT) kid in LA, an overworked Dad, and hundreds of other people from this forum that got Eisley that tour. Will the people in LC pick up the slack (again) if WB drops the ball? I haven't heard the CD yet. I do hope that people who have heard it don't go on and on and on about how great it is. That is annoying (somewhat teasing and elitist). If I do hear it before the release (don't really want to) I won't say anything. I also hope that people from this forum (past and present) who are mad at the band for reasons unfathomable, give it a chance, hear it with unbiased minds, and don't allow their anger to drive their judgement and their (significant) influence. Sorry about the long post. |
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:33 am
madcat2089 wrote: Maybe I interpreted you incorrectly voxear, but I think many of us can listen to many albums from years ago. I'm only 18 but I could listen to the Strokes' "Is This It" today and everyday and that album is going on 6 or 7 years now. There's many many many others that I've listened to for years that I could still listen to and enjoy.
But no, I couldn't listen to Room Noises every day. I haven't listened to it fully through for months. It's a little too emotional for that I think, and I doubt Combinations will be any less moving. Honestly, I'm not sure I know what I'm trying to say either... never materialized. I am a few years older than you, true, but I could be younger musically speaking... I guess that's what I mean. That's just my background. I do still listen to Room Noises, but maybe my temperament is different? Bottom line: I guess it would be a mistake to overanalyze why or how that works... when and where and how often and how long people listen to what music.... what works for them. It's not a science, is it? So how can I even take a stab at a judgment... of any listener. I'll have to take it back then... whatever I said before that was of that nature. Pardon me for that. However, I do think it is rash to pass a negative judgment on Eisley or Boyd or WB without really understanding them or that whole situation, as many have already noted here... at least for the majority of us who don't have that information firsthand. Just have to assume the best of people when you can. That's all I've got. That and I'm still not sure whether or not it was wise to throw so many of the new songs out there. As one person said, that would make it look on the surface as if we've been there done that. It doesn't matter whether the recorded versions are going to blow us away (I think so, others know so) or not if we never give it a chance... just b/c we feel like we've heard it all. Unfortunate side effects of letting us peek ahead of time? It was generous, but was it best? I'd hate to see people's anticipation/support diminish over something like this. The benefits were (it seems to me) that we never lost a sense of contact or insider-ness with the band. Also, people showed up for their last string of shows, which must be healthy for them financially. Who knows. 
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:34 am
dannychair wrote: TheAntrider wrote: That's assuming that all of those made the album. Considering they've played Go Away, Invasion, Many Funerals, and I Could Be There For You live recently and they were going to play Come Clean, I'm assuming those made the album or at least made the bonus songs list. okay, so apparently i have to say this again, even though they play them live, doesn't mean they made it on the album, for instance, take a look at... Lady of the Wood The Escaping Song They All Surrounded Me Sunfeet that's four songs right there that didn't make it onto the album, and heaven knows there are more that didn't make it, we just haven't heard all of them, some people had, but odds are, most people haven't heard a lot of the songs they wrote/worked out/did rough drafts of, but then never made it. and for the new album, think of how many songs they probably went through and worked out for this album, but didn't make it, one of them that we know of is "I/We Feel Good", and that's about the only one we know of at the moment, and they cut that one very early in the process, and later on, when the track list is revealed, well, know so much more. it just seems that some of you don't get that even though a song is played live, it might not be on the album. _________________ cynlovescandy wrote: kulvir wrote: I bet R. Kelly approves of peeing in the shower. The world is R. Kelly's shower. It's a golden world. Nowhere Man wrote: mr pine wrote: is there a difference between dubstep and techno?
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