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 Post subject: Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:48 am 
Haha.. I'd just keep the acoustic anyway. Acoustic guitars are always nice to have around.. when you need to play a song. And yeah, guitars are better if you're just by yourself.. but drums are also cool to just free-style on. It's not as easy to just rock it on guitar, though if you're really good, that's another story. And yeah, drums add a LOT more to an overall band sound than a guitar does.. it would sound completely empty without drums.. or bass for that matter. |
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:17 am
sharrkmaster wrote: drums add a LOT more to an overall band sound than a guitar does.. it would sound completely empty without drums.. or bass for that matter. Drums are pretty vital, bass not so much IMO. That is, the way many bass players play - so-called 'anchoring the beat' and just following the song chord progressions - they might as well not even bother. A band like Sleater-Kinney rocked as well as anyone and you never miss the absence of a bass. Mates of State go with just keys and drums and still make you wanna shake yer stuff. I can't think of any drumless combos ATM, good or bad. Now when a bass player contributes something extra, that makes the music that much more exciting. A Geddy Lee or Entwhistle or Flea, or even a D'arcy or Kim Deal or Mike Dirnt, adds an extra dimesion to a song. Or a Garron, his lines on songs like 'Invasion' and 'Ten Cent Blues' give Eisley that extra spark. To get back to the original question, the only suggestion I'd make is that if you have the opportunity to try them both out first - drums and bass - it's possible one of those instruments will 'speak' to you and you'll know right then which suits you better!  _________________ http://www.twitter.com/drstrangeblog http://www.last.fm/user/getinline I can't find the time to write my mind the way I want it to read. |
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:03 am
grain thrower wrote: A band like Sleater-Kinney rocked as well as anyone and you never miss the absence of a bass. Carrie and Corin both tune their guitars down to C# so they can emulate basslines. I think they were very careful to consider how a lower guitar sound would complement their vocals while still allowing them to solo in conventional ways. _________________ INTELLECT AND ROMANCE OVER BRUTE FORCE AND CYNICISM Smokemonster |
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:01 am
Saellys wrote: grain thrower wrote: A band like Sleater-Kinney rocked as well as anyone and you never miss the absence of a bass. Carrie and Corin both tune their guitars down to C# so they can emulate basslines. I think they were very careful to consider how a lower guitar sound would complement their vocals while still allowing them to solo in conventional ways. True, Corin in particular provides double duty as rhythm & bass-y guitarist, but she's still playing chords much of the time instead of the traditional one-note bass lines, creating a rather unique dynamic. I get the impression when forming the band and their sound they thought, "Why should we need a bass player?" Then again in the early shoestring days maybe they simply didn't want to pay a 4th member. _________________ http://www.twitter.com/drstrangeblog http://www.last.fm/user/getinline I can't find the time to write my mind the way I want it to read. |
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Joined: 05 Mar 2008 | Posts: 2003 | Location: Iowa
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:07 pm
rockchick1959 wrote: seansy wrote: . Personally i really enjoy playing with the song Sun Feet that song has an amazing bassline, my eisley fav. 
i love love LOVE that bassline. i have this live version from wayback and i was like "you go jon. play that bass" i was especially happy when i heard it live myself and Garron does a kickin job on the bassline. If i ever saw Jon I would give him a really long hug, like 30 seconds at least. I'm so glad you LOVE the bassline too, im absolutely in love with it. Jon did a great job on bass when he was in Eisley. _________________ And you run and you run to catch up with the sun, but it's sinking And racing around to come up behind you again The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older Shorter of breath and one day closer to death |
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Joined: 29 May 2008 | Posts: 270 | Location: Levittown, NY
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:52 am
I really don't think that there are enough violins in bands...or maybe im just a little partial ;o) |
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:56 am
KatiePlaysForte wrote: I really don't think that there are enough violins in bands...or maybe im just a little partial ;o) I actually agree. I listen to songs all the time where I think that if arranged a little differently, a violin would fit in beautifully. _________________ "I shall take the heart," returned the Tin Woodsman; "for brains do not make one happy, and happiness is the best thing in the world." |
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:24 pm
KatiePlaysForte wrote: I really don't think that there are enough violins in bands...or maybe im just a little partial ;o) Sounds like you could use a lick from that dog. _________________ http://www.twitter.com/drstrangeblog http://www.last.fm/user/getinline I can't find the time to write my mind the way I want it to read. |
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Joined: 05 Mar 2008 | Posts: 2003 | Location: Iowa
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:16 pm
grain thrower wrote: sharrkmaster wrote: drums add a LOT more to an overall band sound than a guitar does.. it would sound completely empty without drums.. or bass for that matter. Drums are pretty vital, bass not so much IMO. Dunno about that. I think they're both pretty key in a lot of music. To take an extreme case or two, I think it would be hard to argue, for instance that peter hook/simon gallup were not vital to their band's music. Lots of other examples... including anything with any ska/mod revival or post-punk/new-wave influence at all, especially, where the bass groove is a VERY central part of the music- also anything r&b/funk influenced, not to mention any kind of reggae or dance hall. Altogether, that takes in a large percentage of popular music. I think a lot of the time people don't realize just how much of what they are hearing as the main, driving theme and dancing to is bass. Its very evident in a lot of earlier Eisley, and especially live. Garron seems to favour a more subtle, traditional rock style a lot of the time, but Jon had a very punctuated, aggressive, front and center kind of bass goove going in a lot of songs, and they had it pretty high in the mix. |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:50 am
inorbit wrote: grain thrower wrote: sharrkmaster wrote: drums add a LOT more to an overall band sound than a guitar does.. it would sound completely empty without drums.. or bass for that matter. Drums are pretty vital, bass not so much IMO. That is, the way many bass players play. Dunno about that. I think they're both pretty key in a lot of music. To take an extreme case or two, I think it would be hard to argue, for instance that peter hook/simon gallup were not vital to their band's music. Lots of other examples... including anything with any ska/mod revival or post-punk/new-wave influence at all, especially, where the bass groove is a VERY central part of the music- also anything r&b/funk influenced, not to mention any kind of reggae or dance hall. Altogether, that takes in a large percentage of popular music. I think a lot of the time people don't realize just how much of what they are hearing as the main, driving theme and dancing to is bass. Its very evident in a lot of earlier Eisley, and especially live. Garron seems to favour a more subtle, traditional rock style a lot of the time, but Jon had a very punctuated, aggressive, front and center kind of bass goove going in a lot of songs, and they had it pretty high in the mix. I added back in part of my contention which is pretty critical to my point. I'm not saying bass isn't important, but rather the unimaginative, perfunctory way many bass players approach their role renders them rather inconsequential. _________________ http://www.twitter.com/drstrangeblog http://www.last.fm/user/getinline I can't find the time to write my mind the way I want it to read. |
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Joined: 05 Mar 2008 | Posts: 2003 | Location: Iowa
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:14 am
grain thrower wrote: I added back in part of my contention which is pretty critical to my point. I'm not saying bass isn't important, but rather the unimaginative, perfunctory way many bass players approach their role renders them rather inconsequential. Drums are pretty vital, bass not so much IMO. That is, the way many bass players play. OK- I'll grant that, I can understand why you might have decided to leave it out of the initial post though. |
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:10 pm
grain thrower wrote: KatiePlaysForte wrote: I really don't think that there are enough violins in bands...or maybe im just a little partial ;o) Sounds like you could use a lick from that dog. i've definately never heard of them before! i just checked them out-their violinist is okayish but it's not quite my cup 'a tea. =o) |
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Joined: 26 Feb 2008 | Posts: 8 | Location: Spring Hill, Florida
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:01 am
KatiePlaysForte wrote: grain thrower wrote: KatiePlaysForte wrote: I really don't think that there are enough violins in bands...or maybe im just a little partial ;o) Sounds like you could use a lick from that dog. i've definately never heard of them before! i just checked them out-their violinist is okayish but it's not quite my cup 'a tea. =o) Yeah, I couldn't resist mentioning them; trivia note, the violinist Petra Haden is the daughter of jazzmaster Charlie Haden. I just find it really great that in their little weirdo punk-pop songs, you find these nifty violin parts! Definitely not in their ordinary element. _________________ http://www.twitter.com/drstrangeblog http://www.last.fm/user/getinline I can't find the time to write my mind the way I want it to read. |
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Joined: 05 Mar 2008 | Posts: 2003 | Location: Iowa
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:21 am
grain thrower wrote: KatiePlaysForte wrote: grain thrower wrote: KatiePlaysForte wrote: I really don't think that there are enough violins in bands...or maybe im just a little partial ;o) Sounds like you could use a lick from that dog. i've definately never heard of them before! i just checked them out-their violinist is okayish but it's not quite my cup 'a tea. =o) Yeah, I couldn't resist mentioning them; trivia note, the violinist Petra Haden is the daughter of jazzmaster Charlie Haden. I just find it really great that in their little weirdo punk-pop songs, you find these nifty violin parts! Definitely not in their ordinary element. i just love those little random tidbits and such haha =o) veryyy true! it seems as though most people think that the violin can only do classical or fiddle or celtic so even if it's not quite my thing it really is nice to see something a little out of the norm =o) |
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:14 pm
KatiePlaysForte wrote: grain thrower wrote: KatiePlaysForte wrote: grain thrower wrote: KatiePlaysForte wrote: I really don't think that there are enough violins in bands...or maybe im just a little partial ;o) Sounds like you could use a lick from that dog. i've definately never heard of them before! i just checked them out-their violinist is okayish but it's not quite my cup 'a tea. =o) Yeah, I couldn't resist mentioning them; trivia note, the violinist Petra Haden is the daughter of jazzmaster Charlie Haden. I just find it really great that in their little weirdo punk-pop songs, you find these nifty violin parts! Definitely not in their ordinary element. i just love those little random tidbits and such haha =o) veryyy true! it seems as though most people think that the violin can only do classical or fiddle or celtic so even if it's not quite my thing it really is nice to see something a little out of the norm =o) uhh yellowcard
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