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 Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:39 pm 
Since when did a girl with a pretty voice accompanied by nothing but the strumming a acoustic guitar or piano/ keyboard not sound generic?? And I'm not saying that cause I don't think she's awesome solo too, it's just, no matter how you frame a song these days it's all been done to death, and now all you can hope is to do whatever "it" is you do well. But maybe you mean their arrangements for the backing elements were generic and not inventive, as opposed to the simple fact that her songs are now band songs and not solo? 
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:34 pm
If that's what we're calling those who are able to express an honest opinion without fear, sure! And yes, I meant the arrangements. It adds nothing to the song, and in my opinion, actually detracts from it. My opinion might be different if she had an actual band who was actually thoughtfully writing out music to accompany these songs, but I don't think that's the case from what I've seen...unless something's changed. But even if they did, I still really like just the guitar/keyboard that puts her voice in the spotlight, and would hope some songs could still be like that. Again, it's only an opinion and she can do whatever she wants. |
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:40 pm
^ Pretty much. If you just add a "band" sound to a solo song, it just makes it sound more radio-ish to me. Some of my favorite singer songwriters are ones who avoid this cliche (Sufjan Stevens with huge-to-tiny instrumentation, and Damien Rice with cello, violin, alto voice, and looping pedals). Another benefit to "just" a solo performance is that it allows for a much more nuanced performance. _________________ EisleyForever wrote: you're A-list in my heart! MAKECOLDPLAYHISTORY |
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:27 pm
^ Why are you agreeing with her when she just ripped off what you said before? She's stealing your thunder! 
Of course I totally get where you're coming from, and to show how I get what you mean... in principle... But I really enjoyed those arrangements, it was not what I expected, but still enjoyable, a change of pace. But that's just me... But to bring it back around, the main reason I brought up "the Brewtones Ensemble" is cause I was trying to stick to the thread's idea of (realistic) BANDS I'd like to see open up for Eisley on tour. So, I saddled her with a band to book her on an imaginary tour, with musicians she could realistically recruit. That's all. _________________ yup, that's my name. FOR YOUR RATING PLEASURE: 4 LIKE Buttons, 1 NEUTRAL, 1 VEXED, 5 DISLIKE buttons. LC > FB
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:39 pm
butt = hurt It's a compliment to Christie. She has the expressive capabilities to perform an engaging solo act. And, personally, I think that's a lot more interesting when it's not covered up by generic band instrumentation. But, you know what? Home Movies is also my favorite television show. And, it got the worst ratings UPN had ever had, so my opinions are generally irrelevant. _________________ EisleyForever wrote: you're A-list in my heart! MAKECOLDPLAYHISTORY |
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:59 pm
Home Movies started off on UPN???? 
I think there is a pretty general consensus that Home Movies and Arrested Development are generally loved on this board, or at least by the people who's opinions matter the most around here. But I did not know they were on there, ever. It was always a Cartoon Network show to me, pre-adult swim even, I remember it coming on in the evening, it was the highlight, Justice League, followed by some crap, and eventually Home Movies. Peep the Imdb.com user score now, and rethink your statement there... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Damnit, I don't think I've ever gotten THAT completely off topic? No wait, yeah I have. Back full Cirlce then.. Eisley & the Swell Season, Aqualung Opens. _________________ yup, that's my name. FOR YOUR RATING PLEASURE: 4 LIKE Buttons, 1 NEUTRAL, 1 VEXED, 5 DISLIKE buttons. LC > FB
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:18 pm
wilsmith wrote: Home Movies started off on UPN????
I think there is a pretty general consensus that Home Movies and Arrested Development are generally loved on this board, or at least by the people who's opinions matter the most around here. But I did not know they were on there, ever. It was always a Cartoon Network show to me, pre-adult swim even, I remember it coming on in the evening, it was the highlight, Justice League, followed by some crap, and eventually Home Movies. Peep the Imdb.com user score now, and rethink your statement there... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Damnit, I don't think I've ever gotten THAT completely off topic? No wait, yeah I have. Back full Cirlce then.. Eisley & the Swell Season, Aqualung Opens. It started off on UPN in 1999, canned after 5 episodes. Cartoon network picked it up and finished the first seasons in 2001. _________________ EisleyForever wrote: you're A-list in my heart! MAKECOLDPLAYHISTORY |
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:34 am
I'd like to see them with another underrated Texas band "Fastball". With their use of harmony and melodic tunes I think they would be a good pairing, plus I would get to see two bands in one night that I really like. |
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:39 pm
Dan and Sam wrote: wilsmith wrote: Well, now that the playing field has changed...
this 2010 available bands touring package would make since to me: Christie Dupree (backed by the Brewtones ensemble) Vedera Eisley the Cranberries Dolores and the Cranberries! I love this list! Throw in Sixpence None The Richer, and I'll be there for multiple venues...Holy cow yes, but I'm not that lucky! _________________ http://www.twitter.com/drstrangeblog http://www.last.fm/user/getinline I can't find the time to write my mind the way I want it to read. |
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:41 pm
DRMS_7888 wrote: butt = hurt. I just looked that up... and that's why I changed my Avatar...
I am not taking any of this seriously or personally, but I will admit that I am being contentious, instigating, making leading arguments, and in general being asinine, so I guess I had it coming... but one thing I'm not up on is net-slang. But you know... I'm not ashamed of that
sometimes there's a little dignity in no getting it.
Oh speaking of being asinine: I thought Leigh Nash went solo like 10 years ago??? I never gave them a chance cause the two songs that hit big with them fell into my "hate with a passion" category... I was way off into the 2nd Portishead album, Choirgirl Motel, and stuff like that when Kiss Me & the There She Goes cover's hit big. I found those songs nauseating at that time. The group never got the benefit of the doubt with me because of that. _________________ yup, that's my name. FOR YOUR RATING PLEASURE: 4 LIKE Buttons, 1 NEUTRAL, 1 VEXED, 5 DISLIKE buttons. LC > FB
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:19 am
wilsmith wrote: Oh speaking of being asinine: I thought Leigh Nash went solo like 10 years ago??? I never gave them a chance cause the two songs that hit big with them fell into my "hate with a passion" category... I was way off into the 2nd Portishead album, Choirgirl Motel, and stuff like that when Kiss Me & the There She Goes cover's hit big. I found those songs nauseating at that time. The group never got the benefit of the doubt with me because of that. She did but it was more like 5 years ago, then she reunited with co-writer/guitarist Matt Slocum with an EP and then Christmas album as Sixpence in 2008. There's no denying they have an overall shiny sound, but I find their songs very well crafted. Plus I adore Leigh's pixielike voice, and actually I hear a lot of similarity in Sherri's, an aspect that drew me to Eisley on first exposure. A shared sweet Texas twang. Maybe that's a hook that can help get you starrted? _________________ http://www.twitter.com/drstrangeblog http://www.last.fm/user/getinline I can't find the time to write my mind the way I want it to read. |
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:49 am
Nope, not enough. I always heard their first few Sixpence records were the best, but never got that far. Plus at that time, (10 years ago) I had a buddy who tended to give favor to bands who's lead singers he thought were attractive, which I understand. It also lead to him arguing about how good they were compared to other stuff that I don't think was appropriate, and his crushes would add this intensity to some of the arguments, which put me further off said bands. Their voices may be similar, and I can hear that, but if I was Eisley, I would dread those comparisons because it does their musical creativity a disservice. I am a fan of pretty voices, but I am a bigger fan of melodic arrangements and production. So in my head, as long as there is an Eisley, I have absolutely no use for a Sixpence. And then along came Vedera, and at that point I lost any and all reason to seek out Sixpence, because again there was a singer compared to Leigh in a band whose music I legitimately loved, no allowances necessary (although Lover's Lie acoustic guitar part does irk me a little cause it sounds like something Sixpence would do ).
I am such a hater. I did preamble the subject with "speaking of asinine though _________________ yup, that's my name. FOR YOUR RATING PLEASURE: 4 LIKE Buttons, 1 NEUTRAL, 1 VEXED, 5 DISLIKE buttons. LC > FB
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:25 am
Ha ha, this is where the phrase "well more for me then!" should come into play, but that doesn't work with music does it? Ah well, can't be a fan of everything. Or rather, a person shouldn't be a fan of everything, right? I'm sure Eisley doesn't mind the Sixpence comparison, in fact I bet the sisters combined have all their albums. So much up their alleys. I made a special point to mention in my previous post how Sixpence make "very well crafted" songs - melodic arrangements, check, sparkling production, check - but I guess you'll just have to take my word for it. _________________ http://www.twitter.com/drstrangeblog http://www.last.fm/user/getinline I can't find the time to write my mind the way I want it to read. |
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:27 am
A Fine Frenzy |
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:40 pm
patrock wrote: A Fine Frenzy Gross. _________________ INTELLECT AND ROMANCE OVER BRUTE FORCE AND CYNICISM Smokemonster |
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