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 Post subject: How much of Eisley's success....Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:52 am 
do you think comes from the fact that they are: a) so young b) mainly siblings? I don't discredit their musical abilities, in my experience with the Laughing City EP, they certainly seem to know how to play their instruments, and the songwriting is far above the worthless drivel that is scattered across MTV these days. However, you've got to wonder, if they were instead four unrelated guys in their mid-twenties from the midwest, even with the same level of songwriting and musicianship, would they indeed be courted and eventually signed to Warner Bros, supporting Coldplay on tour, or playing for over 10,000 in England? I'm not trying to flame the band or anything, just trying to start a discussion. |
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Joined: 20 Aug 2003 | Posts: 2261 | Location: Ames, Iowa
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 6:58 am
Honestly.. none.. I mean, would you really follow a band and go to their concerts and buy their CDs solely based on the novelty aspect? I love their songs, so, I listen to them and will hopefully go to their concert(s) soon. Not trying to talk down what you're saying, though, as I'm sure its an honest question. Maybe in radioland its something of a draw, who knows what goes on there.. |
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 7:01 am
kenlaan wrote: Honestly.. none..
I mean, would you really follow a band and go to their concerts and buy their CDs solely based on the novelty aspect? I love their songs, so, I listen to them and will hopefully go to their concert(s) soon. Not trying to talk down what you're saying, though, as I'm sure its an honest question. Maybe in radioland its something of a draw, who knows what goes on there.. I agree, I wouldn't follow a band based on novelty. But I must admit, I did check them out because of it. A band of basically teenagers that cite Radiohead and Coldplay as influences? That's quite unheard of these days. |
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Joined: 20 Aug 2003 | Posts: 2261 | Location: Ames, Iowa
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:05 am
hmm. i dont know. i know it wasnt the reasons why i started listening (wont bore you with what i have explained on previous occaisions). the 10000(or whatever) ppl ( minus 2) at each show in england didnt have a clue who they were so there cant be any other reason than the fact that both the band and the people were at the same festival at the same time. what influenced people to like what they heard can only be due to what the band played or said and as they said very little apart from we'll be outta here soon, then i can only imagine that it was the music that people enjoyed not the fact that the band was related and young. though if it was then why would people want to buy the music as many people have in the US? _________________ "A mathematician is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat which isn't there." - Charles Darwin (legend) |
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Joined: 04 Apr 2003 | Posts: 1296 | Location: Gateshead - good ol' blighty, up north
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:18 am
Maybe I need to rephrase. I certainly don't think they would have gotten as much press had they not been related and so young. Rolling Stone, other mags, papers, etc, all mention the fact that the band is a "family" and very young. I think that is a cool angle that encourages publications to perhaps do a story on them as opposed to some other band. Of course, the music still must be good for the band to win fans, which I think it is. The question is, would those fans had heard of Eisley if not for the articles and press? |
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Joined: 20 Aug 2003 | Posts: 2261 | Location: Ames, Iowa
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 10:08 am
As a member of said press (albeit a distance from the likes of Rolling Stone), I'd have to say that I would want to write about Eisley based on their musical merits, but that I'd probably use the family thing as a (I really hate this word) angle to the story. In other words: It's a good way to approach a story that would have been written anyway. If they all met in college, or while fishing, I'd approach it that way. But they're family and pretty young to be so good. (Though there have been many younger. And that doesn't stand out to me much because I'm hardly any older than they are.) So, that's what I'd write about. I think that's the approach most of these people take. And I guess it's useless to ponder what ifs. They could be making bad music, and I guarantee they wouldn't have gotten even half they press they have. Fortunately, they're scary good. -Jamie P.s. Just so you know I know my stuff, I'm a professional journalist and a recent graduate/ current communication grad student. I'm the editor of my college paper and I've worked professionally for about two and a half years. And I'm pretty young (23) for what I do. _________________ My photography:www.jamiemphoto.com You can't spell awesome without emo...backwards! -Julie definingawesome (11:44:11 PM): Eisley shivers our timbers |
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Joined: 15 Aug 2003 | Posts: 25185 | Location: East Texas
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 10:50 am
the hook for me was the stage persona... so I guess that's a novelty  _________________ http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=groelwyn |
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Joined: 09 Jun 2003 | Posts: 300 | Location: Town of MooFasa, TX
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 1:21 pm
theenvycorps wrote: kenlaan wrote: Honestly.. none..
I mean, would you really follow a band and go to their concerts and buy their CDs solely based on the novelty aspect? I love their songs, so, I listen to them and will hopefully go to their concert(s) soon. Not trying to talk down what you're saying, though, as I'm sure its an honest question. Maybe in radioland its something of a draw, who knows what goes on there.. I agree, I wouldn't follow a band based on novelty. But I must admit, I did check them out because of it. A band of basically teenagers that cite Radiohead and Coldplay as influences? That's quite unheard of these days. um except that nearly all teenage bands say that they sound 'like radiohead' even though it's a stupid, vague comparison. i think eisley has just about reached their peak of success unless the teenager/family thing sends them into the mainstream, because eisley's target audience is a group of people that are internet-savvy and that purchase cds from good, usually independently-owned or small chain music stores. these stores do not matter as much to the bigger record labels as Sam Goody and the like, unfortunately, where mainstream radio music is sold. once again that i say that so far their success has been with moderately intelligent people that are into music and probably a lot of local indie supporters. if eisley were to make it onto most radio stations, where quality of music and instrumentation means nothing, i would probably credit that to the family/teen quirk more than the music. troy |
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 3:00 pm
policehq wrote: um except that nearly all teenage bands say that they sound 'like radiohead' even though it's a stupid, vague comparison. I don't know that I agree with that. Give me names of teenage bands that sound like Radiohead. In any case, if Eisley does sound like Radiohead, it isn't quite the Bends era like everyone else does. policehq wrote: i think eisley has just about reached their peak of success unless the teenager/family thing sends them into the mainstream, because eisley's target audience is a group of people that are internet-savvy and that purchase cds from good, usually independently-owned or small chain music stores. these stores do not matter as much to the bigger record labels as Sam Goody and the like, unfortunately, where mainstream radio music is sold. I agree, Eisley are an indie band, whether they've signed to Warner Bros or not. I think we will see Eisley's true audience one the LP comes out. policehq wrote: most radio stations, where quality of music and instrumentation means nothing I don't know if that's true. Mainstream radio certainly doesn't deliver original or sincere material, but it is of high studio quality and the instrumentation is flawless thanks to computer editing. I don't doubt Eisley are a good band that are writing good songs and will win fans on that alone. However, you can't disagree that been a teen/family group gave them a slight push, if ever so. |
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Joined: 20 Aug 2003 | Posts: 2261 | Location: Ames, Iowa
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 3:16 pm
that is why I liked them at first. the novelty. then aget that wore off there was still the amazingness of their music. So I think to a degree it helps at first, but if it wasnt for the great music they wouldnt have such a cult of fans running about. _________________ thelostLostBoy: whoa you look punk in that iron soulfulleslielou: I just drive this bus, I don't what's under the hood |
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 3:20 pm
I guess they should use it if they got it. I remember when Radiohead first came out, they were in danger of being written off as one-hit wonders for years (no matter how great the music outside of "Creep" was), and half the stuff I remember reading about them musically was talking about how weird it was that they had three guitarists. Look how they turned out. That's all I got to say about that. -Jamie M. _________________ My photography:www.jamiemphoto.com You can't spell awesome without emo...backwards! -Julie definingawesome (11:44:11 PM): Eisley shivers our timbers |
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Joined: 15 Aug 2003 | Posts: 25185 | Location: East Texas
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 4:03 pm
Why does everyone view Eisley being "in the mainstream" with such dismay ?? I completely disagree with all of you..... I have never considered Eisley to be a "novelty". I've never based my listening choices on "who anyone is". I listen to their music because it is good. I've never bought any CD only because the members of the band "are a family" or "young" or any other such reason. That's ridculous. Their music speaks for itself....it is far above the usual crap you hear on the radio. Thankfully, they seem to have the full support of a Big Record Label....perhaps it is time for the "mainstream" to have good music in it again! Everyone knows that the Record Labels are who "create the mainstream". A band will never be mainstream without one. I do not think that being "mainstream" has ever been a goal of Eisley, but, if Warner chooses to make them so, all the better! I'd rather see wonderful, talented people like Eisley making zillions of dollars than most of those losers who get it now! Wouldn't you love to hear "Marvelous Things" once an hour on "hit radio" ??? Much better than anyhing they play on "hit radio" now! Here's to Eisley in the mainstream!!!! Get busy, Warner people...i want Eisley on MTV and VH-1 all day long everyday!!! IMAGINE......MAINSTREAM ARTISTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY TALENTED!!!!! WHAT A GREAT IDEA! |
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Joined: 20 Feb 2003 | Posts: 441 | Location: Dallas, TX
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 4:29 pm
Hopefully I didn't misspeak. I agree with most everything you said. I was just making the point that it's useless to ponder where they would be if they were not who they are. I don't care, and never will, how many people like/loathe/ignore any music I listen to. If Eisley stay true to themselves and get loaded and mega-famous in the process, it will let me know that at least one thing is right in the world. Now, that's the last thing I'm going to say on this subject. -Jamie M. _________________ My photography:www.jamiemphoto.com You can't spell awesome without emo...backwards! -Julie definingawesome (11:44:11 PM): Eisley shivers our timbers |
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Post subject: Eisely Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 7:17 pm
umm, I'm almost pretty sure eisley is having success becuz they have this cool dad. labels ALWAYS fall for that one...so does radio. Actually, I'd pick on these crutches/devices/gimmicks - in this order: 1. girls, 2. cute 3. young 4. siblings 5. write and play own music. 6. They don't suck very much. p.s. but we should ask the British. They knew nothing about eisley on Sat. and Sunday. My guess is, they didn't know Stacy was 14. Not really sure. They could tell they were girls, so...I think they just liked the live show and the songs...(and woah, those girls....whooo - woo. girls with guitars.) bd _________________ EisleyWebGuy "The industrialists never saw the fruit of their own labor - Post Moderism, which I now proclaim as dead. Their forefathers digital revolutionists, have accelerated the final resolve by punctuating an end to our chaotic journey with a new manifesto and a new era: The Age of Meaning." (manifesto's sold separate) Welcome: Illuminists |
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:58 pm
Well for us it was the soundcheck that got us interested in watching the set at V, and at that time we couldn't see the stage (or at least not enough to make out what the band looked like). Liked the songs, came to the website, found out they were siblings...in that order. Although girls with guitars.... Cheers! |
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