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 Post subject: New Star Trek Trailer that aired during Heroes 14 of 40Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:02 pm 
How could this happen two nights in a row??? The first trailer had the Phantom Menace affect on me, now this one is more to my liking: http://www.startrekmovie.com/ Like the other Star Franchise, they should spare us the Kiddie stuff and get right to the grit of post adolescence. _________________ yup, that's my name. FOR YOUR RATING PLEASURE: 4 LIKE Buttons, 1 NEUTRAL, 1 VEXED, 5 DISLIKE buttons. LC > FB           
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:17 pm
"Post-adolescence" is the perfect way to describe this crap. Like a teenager on the cusp of adulthood, this movie is fully self-aware in addition to being self-important with absolutely nothing to back it up. I'm not even a Trek fan, but it really pains me to hear someone in the trailer regurgitate the same watered-down melodrama of choosing your own destiny. ("If you want Kirk to beam down to the planet, turn to page 11. If you want him to stay on board the Enterprise, turn to page 82.") That universe deserves better. And nothing else about it looks all that promising, either. Star Trek is not the kind of thing anyone should attempt to revitalize into a story about young, sexy people in space. At its best it was a collection of woefully unattractive, sexless characters led by a bald man (who was and still is admittedly sexy, but not in the fratboy way the new Kirk is supposed to be), voyaging into the unknown armed only with the power of early 1990s optimism. You can't modernize that, any more than The Next Generation was already a modernization at the time--you can only enjoy it for what it was in context. And lest anyone tries to combat my sci-fi cynicism by mentioning that great triumph of modernization with its own diehard fan backlash, Battlestar Galactica, I'll bet a hundred dollars that Ronald D. Moore would be the first person to agree with me. He wrote a lot of TNG, and then grew disillusioned while working on Voyager, due in large part to that show's attempts to bring Trek into the modern age. The sad thing is the Abrams movie would probably make a very decent, if forgettable, stand-alone science fiction film with all original characters and situations. As an installment in the Star Trek saga it looks to be completely bland at best and most likely a steaming heap of crap. I can only assume that Gene Roddenberry's corpse is rotating like a pig on a spit. And what's really disturbing is that every person I know who didn't grow up watching The Next Generation is ZOMG, so totally excited about the new movie!!1! _________________ INTELLECT AND ROMANCE OVER BRUTE FORCE AND CYNICISM Smokemonster |
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:05 pm
Man, you are on a tear tonight 
I'm just happy this trailer is better than the last one!
The new Kirk is pretty boiler plate, they could have got Casper Van Diem for good measure for full Irony, or the other Dr. on Bones, who was on Space: Above and Beyond, Foxes BSG rip off back in the day 
Man, I am pulling out all the geek cards, I need to go to bed. But I get your gist, many times over actually... and I would have to say, I gave an inch, and you made a Molehill, I am impressed, that was 3rd degree harshness with a lefthanded compliment at the end... cause you basically proposed that this movie could have been the next Watchmen. Don't believe me, peep the wikipedia quote: "In 1985, DC Comics acquired a line of characters from Charlton Comics.[2] During that period, writer Alan Moore contemplated writing a story featuring an unused line of superheroes that he could revamp, as he had done in his Miracleman series in the early 1980s. Moore reasoned that MLJ Comics' Mighty Crusaders might be available for such a project, so he devised a murder mystery plot which would begin with the discovery of the body of The Shield in a harbor. The writer felt it did not matter which set of characters he ultimately used, as long as readers recognized them "so it would have the shock and surprise value when you saw what the reality of these characters was".[1] Moore used this premise and crafted a proposal featuring the Charlton characters titled Who Killed the Peacemaker,[3] and submitted the unsolicited proposal to DC managing editor Dick Giordano.[2] Giordano was receptive to the proposal, but the editor opposed the idea of using the Charlton characters for the story. Moore said, "DC realized their expensive characters would end up either dead or dysfunctional." Instead, Giordano convinced Moore to rework his pitch to feature original characters.[4] Moore had initially believed that original characters would not provide emotional resonance for the readers, but later changed his mind" _________________ yup, that's my name. FOR YOUR RATING PLEASURE: 4 LIKE Buttons, 1 NEUTRAL, 1 VEXED, 5 DISLIKE buttons. LC > FB
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:02 am
My dad is excited to see it. _________________ Power is only pain It’s probably better to have him inside the tent pissing out, than outside the tent pissing in. "Can we get control of an individual to the point where he will do our bidding against his will and even against fundamental laws of nature, such as self preservation?" -memo from 1952 Project ARTICHOKE 
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:36 am
that is not Star Trek! i'm kind of shocked by how strong my reaction to that trailer is, since i don't think i've watched anything Star Trek related in forever, but when i was a kid i was completely obsessed with it (especially TOS), and watching that honestly made me feel like i was watching my entire childhood being tortured, raped, and murdered! i mean, what's the $#@! point of returning to TOS-era, only to completely destroy everything that made it so great, and turn it into just another J. J. Abrams piece of crap!?! |
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:48 am
I thought you knew?? That's what prequels are designed to do. Just ask George Lucas... _________________ yup, that's my name. FOR YOUR RATING PLEASURE: 4 LIKE Buttons, 1 NEUTRAL, 1 VEXED, 5 DISLIKE buttons. LC > FB
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:55 am
wilsmith wrote: I thought you knew?? That's what prequels are designed to do. Just ask George Lucas... +1. I'm just glad it's finally happening to Trek too, so all the fandoms can be on the same page. Interesting quote about Watchmen. I had no idea. _________________ INTELLECT AND ROMANCE OVER BRUTE FORCE AND CYNICISM Smokemonster |
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:31 pm
The original show is the best. Its just so frickin funny to watch the actors tear up the cardboard scenery. Wow, speaking of tearing it up ... Saellys withering critique makes me wish the film is a critical and commercial success and will prove a pleasant surprise even to Saellys. Long odds I know ... As far as how a Kirk would go from Star Fleet Academy noob to Captain of a ship that all the alien chicks are into, I would have gone with mutiny as my plot device. Go on Saelly, tell me why that would be heretical, silly and or stupid. _________________ 
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:50 am
Mutiny, I never actually thought of that. That makes perfect sense, but then how would that suss out with Starfleet? Don't answer, just being rhetorically pragmatic as a devil's advocate. _________________ yup, that's my name. FOR YOUR RATING PLEASURE: 4 LIKE Buttons, 1 NEUTRAL, 1 VEXED, 5 DISLIKE buttons. LC > FB
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:33 am
Considering the many paths Star Trek has available to it, I think there's plenty of room for a "modernized" version in there. It's not like they are trying to wipe out everything else. _________________ My photography:www.jamiemphoto.com You can't spell awesome without emo...backwards! -Julie definingawesome (11:44:11 PM): Eisley shivers our timbers |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:36 am
To make a prequel to the original Star Trek you'd have to be so retro! I mean I love those old shows, but the sets were so cheesy by today's standards, how could you make it fit? And anyway, I wasn't at all impressed by the trailer! _________________ Mike=] |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:25 am
gundamit wrote: As far as how a Kirk would go from Star Fleet Academy noob to Captain of a ship that all the alien chicks are into, I would have gone with mutiny as my plot device. Go on Saelly, tell me why that would be heretical, silly and or stupid. I didn't get a mutiny vibe from the contextual dialogue in the trailer at all. I got a "the captain and first mate beamed aboard an alien ship to parley, got incinerated, and now they're gonna shoot us out of the sky" vibe. Mutiny (led by Kirk or otherwise) wouldn't be heretical, silly, or stupid, which is why I really don't think it will pop up in this movie. The mutineers would need to have character depth and motivation, and I doubt this movie is sophisticated enough for that. TheAntrider wrote: Considering the many paths Star Trek has available to it, I think there's plenty of room for a "modernized" version in there. It's not like they are trying to wipe out everything else. I have no doubt that if this movie does well enough at the box office, J. J. Abrams will fart out a series of sequels that retell and modernize classic Trek. mikep0922 wrote: To make a prequel to the original Star Trek you'd have to be so retro! I mean I love those old shows, but the sets were so cheesy by today's standards, how could you make it fit? And anyway, I wasn't at all impressed by the trailer! Seriously. It made about as much sense as the Star Wars prequels having more advanced, sleeker technology (and Artoo can suddenly fly? Riiiiiiight). By its very nature, modernizing Trek kills the feel of the whole thing. _________________ INTELLECT AND ROMANCE OVER BRUTE FORCE AND CYNICISM Smokemonster |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:50 pm
Judging by the Weird-looking ship going through the wormhole looking thing, there is either some Time Travel, or extra-dimensional travel in this movie. How that tweaks things if it's true could be the biggest blow to traditionalists. _________________ yup, that's my name. FOR YOUR RATING PLEASURE: 4 LIKE Buttons, 1 NEUTRAL, 1 VEXED, 5 DISLIKE buttons. LC > FB
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:08 pm
I love how people act like they're freakin' Boudica while watching a NON-CANON movie. _________________ Power is only pain It’s probably better to have him inside the tent pissing out, than outside the tent pissing in. "Can we get control of an individual to the point where he will do our bidding against his will and even against fundamental laws of nature, such as self preservation?" -memo from 1952 Project ARTICHOKE
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:14 pm
Saellys wrote: Seriously. It made about as much sense as the Star Wars prequels having more advanced, sleeker technology (and Artoo can suddenly fly? Riiiiiiight). By its very nature, modernizing Trek kills the feel of the whole thing. We (friends and family that I've watched Star Wars with) always thought that the prequels showed a period that was a kind of "Golden Age" with more technology, etc. perhaps corresponding to the better political situation, followed by the original movies, more of a "dark ages," corresponding to the Empire's rule. That might sound stupid to you but we always thought of it that way. _________________ 
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