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 Post subject: Perceptions of Eisley in the MainstreamPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 1:26 am 
Everyone needs to stop pretending that Eisley is some "unknown little indie band", and start giving them the respect they deserve. Eisley is not an "indie band". By definition, an indie band is on an independent label, or their music fits mostly outside of the mainstream. Eisley is neither of those. Few, if any other, bands recently have been courted by the major labels like Eisley was, and i cannot believe that Eisley will be left to rot in the "indie closet" for very long. They are being groomed for mainstream success, much like Coldplay, and i believe they deserve it, and the mainstream needs it. This summer, Eisley should either be the opening band for a large, well established act like Coldplay, or, they need to headline their own club tour, like the Brand New tour was, except with Eisley as the main act. In my opinion, it would be an insult to ask Eisley to open for any of these "indie bands" always mentioned in this Forum. While i agree that some of them make good and original music, they simply do not have what Eisley has. While thrusting Eisley hard into the mainstream immediately may not be the plan, i think to send Eisley out as an "unknown opening act" for a band like Deathcab or Brand New again serves no purpose. Expense-wise, it doesn't cost anymore for Eisley to open for Coldplay than it does for Brand New.... but by touring with Coldplay, you get 10 times the exposure, or more..... Personally, I will be shocked if WB were to ever ask Eisley to open for a band like Brand New or HRC ever again. I believe their plans for Eisely so far exceed what those bands could ever hope to be. I have a deep respect for Brand New and Hot Rod Circuit..those guys, simply by existing, did more than i was ever able to do myself in the music world. But let's not kid ourselves.... Brand New does not have what Eisely has... nor does HRC.... nor Deathcab.... nor nearly all of the "indie bands" ever mentioned here. The major labels know that...and that's why Eisley, with barely even an EP out, and never really having toured outside Texas before, went out with Coldplay, were in Rolling Stone 3 times, plus countless other magazines, etc.etc.etc. I can't think of any band who deserves it more. I'm ready to start talking about stadium tours and who should OPEN for Eisely....not who Eisley might "play with". Where will Eisley go on their International Tour this Autumn? Europe? Canada? Australia? Japan? How many weeks after release before the new Eisely album is Platinum? AS LONG AS WE PERCIEVE EISLEY as a "tiny little indie band", thats all Eisely will ever be......we must start seeing them for the talented, incredible rockstars they already are!!! |
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Post subject: brilliant Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 1:31 am
dude your awesome, will you marry me? _________________ "Waste today, and tomorrow will never be the same" visit my new Xanggggggaaaaa....... http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=humbleabode |
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:13 am
i'll marry you?? _________________ www.myspace.com/goodbyeterminal -Band |
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:26 am
The biggest thing Eisley has to fear at this point would be "over-exposure". They need some radio play, video play, and some major articles done on them; but if they become over saturated in the markets, they could potentially create a "burn out" and turn people off to them. This, of course, is true of any band and not really directed solely at Eisley. The only other problem that I've witnessed is "under-exposure" which could also hurt a band. Finding the happy medium is, probably, the hardest thing to do. _________________ 
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:50 am
Excellent post Kyle and I totally agree with you. _________________ Hello my name is CHRIS and... |
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:40 am
BK wrote: The biggest thing Eisley has to fear at this point would be "over-exposure". They need some radio play, video play, and some major articles done on them; but if they become over saturated in the markets, they could potentially create a "burn out" and turn people off to them. This, of course, is true of any band and not really directed solely at Eisley. The only other problem that I've witnessed is "under-exposure" which could also hurt a band. Finding the happy medium is, probably, the hardest thing to do. I totally agree BK. Also... They're all such good looking people that I would hate it if they became popular with certain people just for that reason.  _________________ thanks to the works of stephen colbert, the population of elephants has tripled in the past 10 years. |
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Post subject: Re: brilliant Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 12:17 pm
humbleabode wrote: dude your awesome,
will you marry me? Ummm....who are you?!? Tell me more...i'll decide.... |
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 12:52 pm
Good post KyleRoss! Although I wouldn't necessarily agree with the over-exposure/under-exposure thing. That doesn't affect bands that are extremely talented and appealing to the masses. Having such a concern only applies to people that are riding a fan wave based on a musical popularity contest. Such as *ahem" forgive me for mentioning Britney Spears...she faces over-exposure because people SLOWLY realize that she can't sing. Another crappy band, Evanescence faces over-exposure because they are a revitalized grunge feel but can't really sing in tune. Could Coldplay ever be overexposed??? No, because they hold real lyrical/melodic talent....Or how about U2...even though we don't hear about them ALL the time...doesn't mean they fade away. Anways...I think people classify their current music as Indie, because most don't realize what Indie really means. When they hear non-pop/rock, they think it's indie. Like on MTV.com Stereophonics are Indie...but they are mainstream in the UK. de |
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:18 pm
i like what BK said,, sometimes too much exposure can be bad. _________________ Music died with Kurt Cobain <<>><<>><<>><<>><< If the sky falls can I count on your vote? |
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:42 pm
I'm not so sure. Good bands take alot of time to reach their potential... I think its important that they cut their teeth nice and gradually. They're an amazing band and they have alot of potential to be even better - but they're still young, whats the rush? Its important they're out there and touring. Sure, they probably wouldn't suit a support slot with Brand New now but that doesn't mean touring with bands like Death Cab, Cursive, Brand New or whoever would do them any harm. Plus, I don't think anyone see's them as a tiny indie band. Pretty much everyone on this board are genuinely over the moon when Eisley take another step forward into the media. Anyways, surely musical growth is more important than levels of exposure, touring partners etc? |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:22 am
I agree with most of what RedbrickNick says, in general, he makes makes some good points about band growth and such. But i do not agree with the perception that Eisley's musical growth will be challenged by exposure. What a lot of people don't realize though, is that Eisley has been growing for a long time. Despite their young ages, they have been playing together as a band for more than 5 years. It's hard for people to comprehend. I saw a list of their performances in 2002 one time, i was shocked to see how many shows they played, nearly every weekend for almost the entire year, often 2 times in one week! All YEAR! Although the "tour" was almost entirely in Texas, often to small crowds, they were cutting their teeth quite nicely, i believe. Eisley are veterans of the live show already. Sure, it wouldn't HURT anything to tour with a deathcab or brandnew type of band, but does it really HELP anything? It just becomes a big expense of time and money for the band, for, in my opinion, a relatively small benefit. I believe touring with a more well-known act makes more sense. They will continue to "cut their teeth" either way. At the very least, they should not have to open for small bands anymore. Also, who says that they cannot "continue to grow musically" while touring on a larger scale, or getting media exposure? I don't think it affects their musical growth at all. I'm not saying Eisley needs to be thrust into the spotlight immediately like a Britney Spears...only that Eisley deserves bigger success, i'm sure they would like to sell some albums, and get paid for playing for a change! I think they've "paid their dues". DON'T FORGET.....these are just my own opinions. Eisely is gonna do what Eisely feels is best for THEMSELVES to do.....you or I can never pretend to know what that will be! If we are true fans, we must support them no matter what they decide....but not be afraid to voice our opinions, no matter how crazy! |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:35 am
Yea, some good points. I agree that the band have been consistantly growing throughout their career... which, we'll all agree, is a refreshing change from bands that stick to a successful formula, just to maintain their success. You're right... they should just be out there touring (as and when they wish, ofcourse). But I don't see why you think touring with Coldplay or the like will do them so much good. They've toured with Coldplay before, its not a groundbreaking idea. I think the Brand New tour probably did them as much good as the Coldplay tour... its attracting a different type of music fan. A broad fanbase is the sign of a good band! I'm not arguing with you chief... you clearly know your stuff. Some really good points, just different perspectives on the situation. |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:54 am
It's all cool...i'm not trying to argue with anyone either...i don't often write very clearly, so i tend to get wordy trying to make my point 
personally, i would always prefer to see Eisley perform at a place like Curtain Club in Dallas, playing to 100 people.
but they get MUCH more exposure from big shows...thus my reasonign for touring on a big tour. they made more new fans from ONE show in the UK (VFest2003) than they made on the entire Brand New tour.... |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 2:07 am
Yea, fair point. I don't know.... I'm a huge fan of Brand New. So in my eyes, touring with them is the best thing any band can do, you know?! I think it reflects well on the band though, that they can quite happily fit on a bill with an arena band and possibly Britains biggest music export or on a bill with any number of accomplished indie bands.
With an ever expanding profile the band can mix the bands they tour with and the type of bands they support... whether it be a headlining tour, co-headlining tour or support slot. Variety is the spice of life afterall. |
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 8:28 am
Interesting read. thanks... I know Eisley won't be going out with Coldplay this year. At least, I'd be surprised. Next year they will absolutely be on the tour with the ape-normous Coldplay by virtue of a Festival put on by DCM. This will have many cool bands - also Brand New, perhaps. Many bands will be clamoring to get on this tour; of course, Eisley has a spot clenched. Of course, Kyle...prepare yourself. Eisley will have had their first record out shortly before this tour so, surely they'll be in an opening slot. Or....we'll see. If the record does well, maybe better. I agree that this is a slow, steady growth process. I love Kyle's great vision. Maybe he see's things. _________________ EisleyWebGuy "The industrialists never saw the fruit of their own labor - Post Moderism, which I now proclaim as dead. Their forefathers digital revolutionists, have accelerated the final resolve by punctuating an end to our chaotic journey with a new manifesto and a new era: The Age of Meaning." (manifesto's sold separate) Welcome: Illuminists |
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