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tahruh
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Nowhere Man wrote:

What? It wasn't dumb and dramatic.
Was this intentional? Laughing I'm kidding, but only about the dumb part.

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Uhm, so, I when and found the Tumblr ya'll spoke of.

Turns out Owlrika has a pretty good song up there by my ears, and her previous band definitely sounds Eisley influenced. It ain't half bad Wink It will remind you all of Room Noises Era Eisley, that's for sure.

As for the first song: I would call it trance influenced, but this is what goes for hip hop in some circles in 2011, just like Rihanna's ironically Chris Brown's latest stuff. All sounds like Techno/ Electronica redux to me, but at least the kind I cared for (Trance & Jungle, some Breakbeat)

And maybe it's me, but I see the former band's name Troubador, and it's a slant rhyme with Paramore, and since someone recently went from that band to singing a hook on a popular Hip Hop song my head is swimming in spurious ironies.

Anyway, credit to them for having some good (common with me Razz ) influences listed on the band myspace.

The conspiracy theorist in me suspects an elaborate Bait & Switch strategy at work... or at least a coincidental opportunity capitalized upon.

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tahruh wrote:
Nowhere Man wrote:

What? It wasn't dumb and dramatic.
Was this intentional? Laughing I'm kidding, but only about the dumb part.

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Laughing Wait, what? Like "dumb and dramatic"? Confused I didn't think it was that dramatic, maybe I read it in a calm voice.

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I might actually have made it past the first few lines of rapping if he were actually talking about something that anyone should ever care about.
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But I was wondering, what's the video with the Sherri look-alike?


Well I'm sure if I give you any bad information someone on here can set you straight. It's been around forever so I assume almost everyone here has seen it. But I meant the video that someone made for Brightly Wound has a girl in it who incidentally looks (vaguely) like Sherri and some people commented on that. I don't think anyone actually thought they were trying to be Eisley, and I don't think anyone was upset by the video. I was just scrambling for examples of non conventional fan-made art. The topic at hand is much more in the league of the show choir version of A Sight To Behold as far as that stuff goes. Kind of a realllllly broad comparison. Anyways,

Here it is:
http://vimeo.com/1821118
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I remember that video now... I wouldn't have remembered it from the description you gave for a really simple reason.: I've never been used to seeing Sherri with Blonde hair, and that was enough for me not to think the one singing her lines looked all that much like her. But yeah, I remember that thread (few are surprised I'm sure.) Laughing

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I might actually have made it past the first few lines of rapping if he were actually talking about something that anyone should ever care about.


Antrider's comment would be Anderson Silva, the "Usually Goes" would be the face of that guy...
I'm probably not helping, but ah well, welcome to the internet.

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Cosmic Love wrote:
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But I was wondering, what's the video with the Sherri look-alike?


Well I'm sure if I give you any bad information someone on here can set you straight. It's been around forever so I assume almost everyone here has seen it. But I meant the video that someone made for Brightly Wound has a girl in it who incidentally looks (vaguely) like Sherri and some people commented on that. I don't think anyone actually thought they were trying to be Eisley, and I don't think anyone was upset by the video. I was just scrambling for examples of non conventional fan-made art. The topic at hand is much more in the league of the show choir version of A Sight To Behold as far as that stuff goes. Kind of a realllllly broad comparison. Anyways,

Here it is:
http://vimeo.com/1821118

Oh yeah, I remember that video but I didn't think she looked like Sherri or know that anybody thought that she looked like Sherri. That's actually a pretty good example. It got somewhat slammed mainly because it's so weird hearing their voices coming from other faces. Also because it might confuse potential new fans. I put a comment on it's Youtube that they were ripping off the Bridges and got a bunch of thumbs down or whatever thing youtube was using back then heh.

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It got somewhat slammed mainly because it's so weird hearing their voices coming from other faces.


I agree with you on that. But I figured that because they put in a disclaimer stating

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Zero consideration of the look, style, etc. of the actual band, Eisley, went in to this video. Any similarity between the Eisley and women in this video is purely coincidental.


that the majority of the confusion was that the blonde woman looks vaguely like an early Combinations era Sherri. So in the context of the voices coming from other faces example makes a lot more sense.
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Whatever happens between Eisley and this rapper, frankly, is probably none of our business. As listeners, those legal implications and negotiations are for those within the business, not us. Our ears are turned towards what we consume. It'd be a shame if that insight were to taint our opinions of either musician.

That being said, I actually found his use of Ambulance compelling. Ambulance's lyrics act as an emotional, creative lyrical counterpoint to his rap, and the music is undeniably good, being an Eisley song we all know and love.

Lastly, opinions are opinions, and regardless of your personal beliefs and morals (especially those of us whose view of rap music is clouded by those beliefs), the right to expression is one that we all deserve.
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vivalaspopie wrote:
I don't know how I always stumble upon these weird things (Youtube comments mostly, I guess.)

Maybe you're a natural-born Freak Magnet! Wink

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MichaelMakeArt wrote:
Whatever happens between Eisley and this rapper, frankly, is probably none of our business. As listeners, those legal implications and negotiations are for those within the business, not us. Our ears are turned towards what we consume. It'd be a shame if that insight were to taint our opinions of either musician.


What if you're a listener and a musician (who has, from time to time, received royalties for the use of her work)? I listen to music that appeals to my artistic sensibilities, often involving technical ability that exceeds my own, passionate delivery I aspire to match, and/or lyrics I wish I wrote. I write songs that I would want to hear. And when I see an artist using another artist's work without credit, let alone any intent to do the legally and ethically right thing by paying for it, I take offense. I can't separate those two worlds. The idea that I should runs counter to your closing statement that we all deserve to express our opinion.

My opinion was formed when I listened to the first two minutes of the song and heard that God-awful pitch-shifting on the sample that makes Stacy sound like Alvin and the Chipmunks. I don't listen to much rap because I find most of it incredibly abrasive with no other factors to balance that, and this was no exception. The "good"ness of the music you cite by virtue of it being "Ambulance" became null and void when they altered it to create something ridiculous and (for me) unlistenable. However, I can respect the fact that this guy can spit with the best of them. I wish he would have done it without Eisley in the background.

None of that had anything to do with my considerations of the legal ramifications of sampling "Ambulance" without payment or credit. I was responding solely to the portion of owlrika's post that asserted OnCue and CJ Luzi are somehow doing a positive thing for Eisley by giving them "free exposure". When someone makes ridiculous claims like that, the legal implications become very important to me. No, I'm not going to try to sue on Eisley's behalf, but neither will I refrain from posting a response when someone makes a patently untrue statement just because what Eisley chooses to do about this is none of my business.

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This made me think of the scene in Walk Hard where the older Dewey Cox is shown a video where a rapper sampled his song.
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DRMS_7888 wrote:
Somebody listens to Jay-Z.


I was gonna say, it sounds a lot like Jay-Z.

It's actually not as bad as a lot of people in the thread made it seem.

Wish they would have pitch-adjusted the sample though. No need to chipmunk it just to speed it up.

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JBaker wrote:
DRMS_7888 wrote:
Somebody listens to Jay-Z.


I was gonna say, it sounds a lot like Jay-Z.

It's actually not as bad as a lot of people in the thread made it seem.

Wish they would have pitch-adjusted the sample though. No need to chipmunk it just to speed it up.
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