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 Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 3:32 pm 
omg erica your new avatar is so awesome! you should visit this thread: http://www.eisley.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4583 _________________ hello. |
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Joined: 23 Aug 2003 | Posts: 5978 | Location: Austin, Texas
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 5:57 am
Haha thank you! TGS are my idols.. If anyone hasn't watched it on homestarrunner.com.. you all must do so!  _________________ roooooooooooooooar. |
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Joined: 24 Nov 2003 | Posts: 520 | Location: Woodridge, IL
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 7:41 am
Truth be told.... I'm worried that Eisley's is going to be way too judgemental on themselves, and say, "Man these 4 songs sucked b/c..." and never let anyone ever see it because of little things that most people will never even notice.......I know this is true. i've been in bands that do live recordings, and they wont let people hear some shows b/c it wasn't a top show....and we dont want to be judged by it....... 
It sucks too, b/c 1.ve footage is so hard to come by.....2. shows the true band that can't be coverd up in a recording.......its the best Promoter also, because people know they're getting to see the true band, and will judge them purely on that show......if you're a solid band, that's great news, and you've picked up a bigger folllowing.....What's bad news is when bands worry about this footage getting into the wrong hands.....What that really proves is that the band shouldn't be worring about footage that Will eventually get out, one show, or another, but why they're so worried about their live show being sloppy, and how they can fix that, so that live footage becomes a good thing for them.... need examples? Good=Coldplay(amazing every recording i hear.....THATS why their frikin coldplay, and not Radiant:) Bad=Brand New-absolute worste show despite still being one of my fav. cd's...man they need to sing those melodys and get a better guitarist for harmonies..... If bands are scared of their live show not being amazing, trying to pull all live unpolished footage is not the answer........getting better is..... *i def. went off onto a rant...this is not all related to this thread...just in general, and i'm seeing a bit it in this senario here..... 
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Joined: 30 Sep 2003 | Posts: 92 | Location: Arlington, Texas
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 9:33 am
yes.... and, of course, Eisley, like every other band is trying to improve their live show....no one is focused on sensoring video footage. I'm sorry we paused for a moment and had the thought..."can we see the video first?" It wasn't meant to be the subject of some big philosophical debate. I guess it was inevitable. And thats...ok. whatever... it sorta gives us something to yak about besides tacos and Stacy's eyes, huh.... Will try to put out more live media out there....and eveyone can decide whether it's sensored or not. (mean smiley) I do agree with spydog... I have 3 new live radiohead bootlegs; some songs are pretty bad....missed notes, Jonny and Thom couldn't get their rhythms together... sloppy playing, etc. I still loved it. Makes them human. _________________ EisleyWebGuy "The industrialists never saw the fruit of their own labor - Post Moderism, which I now proclaim as dead. Their forefathers digital revolutionists, have accelerated the final resolve by punctuating an end to our chaotic journey with a new manifesto and a new era: The Age of Meaning." (manifesto's sold separate) Welcome: Illuminists |
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Joined: 04 Nov 2002 | Posts: 5180 | Location: Tyler, Texas
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 3:02 pm
In light of all of that is on this thread, I understand why bands stop allowing people to video tape their shows. 
Eisley has always tried to remain down to earth. Touchable. The attitudes here about them wanting to view this video first, kinda makes me think twice about letting people in with video. I've been to tons of Eisley shows that sounded amazing live, but sounded like crap on video. I'm sure it is something they will have to reconsider now. Too bad. |
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Joined: 11 Nov 2002 | Posts: 3695 | Location: Tyler, TX
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 3:22 pm
Maybe Eisley just wants their fans to hear the songs the way they want them to be heard; to get the effect that theyre striving for. No one is perfect, and they know that of course, and just because they want good quality performances to be seen and heard by their fans and those who haven't heard them yet does not mean that theyre being too judgemental on themselves. You can't really blame a band for wanting their music to be experienced the way they created it to be. Why do bands spend months and months recording and mixing albums? To give the best quality their money can buy. And just because Eisley wants to see the video does not mean that they dont have full confidence in their live shows like Boyd said, theyre always looking to improve, as would any band, even Coldplay, but I've seen them live more times than I can count, and can say without hesitation that theyre one of my favorite live bands to watch.....and NOT just because Im so close to them. _________________ You put a little quotey thingy under it all. Under what you say. Like this. This is how you do it. Jessie |
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 3:29 pm
I belive that Eisley has the right to see the footage first and make any changes they see fit. I also want to see it my self but I think that they have right to see it first. |
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 3:37 pm
Kimbrtones wrote: In light of all of that is on this thread, I understand why bands stop allowing people to video tape their shows.
Eisley has always tried to remain down to earth. Touchable. The attitudes here about them wanting to view this video first, kinda makes me think twice about letting people in with video. I've been to tons of Eisley shows that sounded amazing live, but sounded like crap on video. I'm sure it is something they will have to reconsider now. Too bad. rock. glad to see you back posting kim  _________________ hello. |
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Joined: 23 Aug 2003 | Posts: 5978 | Location: Austin, Texas
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 3:43 pm
How would everyone feel if the band decided to not allow any cameras in(video or stills),didn't sign autographs,didn't reply to PM's and posts on here because of the selfishness shown by a few? other bands/artists are like that (Maynard from Tool/A Perfect Circle) is a good example,you can't take a camera anywhere near him,he doesnt do instores etc.......Let's remember this is a privilege we have as fans,not a god given right,the band don't have to allow any of this at all if they so choose...but they do out of the goodness of their hearts so letting them have a look first is the decent/respectful thing to do seeing as they requested it. _________________ 
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Joined: 24 Oct 2003 | Posts: 17689 | Location: making uhh SEXYTIME
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 3:47 pm
Thanks Ali. Still feeling very weak. I have to go back to the hospital in 2 weeks to have an agioplasty procedure done, and hopefully not a bypass surgery. So, just sitting here on bed rest, watching the Ike and Tina Turner story, and checking out the Eisley forum.
and missing the rest of my family. Back to the subject, I can't imagine any artist not wanting their best stuff out to the WWW. |
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 3:47 pm
Rock on homesick_alien! Welocome back Kim. ^_^ |
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Joined: 16 Feb 2004 | Posts: 67 | Location: Price Utah
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 4:38 pm
The She Wolf wrote: Maybe Eisley just wants their fans to hear the songs the
way they want them to be heard; to get the effect that theyre striving for. No one is perfect, and they know that of course, and just because they want good quality performances to be seen and heard by their fans and those who haven't heard them yet does not mean that theyre being too judgemental on themselves. You can't really blame a band for wanting their music to be experienced the way they created it to be. Why do bands spend months and months recording and mixing albums? To give the best quality their money can buy. And just because Eisley wants to see the video does not mean that they dont have full confidence in their live shows like Boyd said, theyre always looking to improve, as would any band, even Coldplay, but I've seen them live more times than I can count, and can say without hesitation that theyre one of my favorite live bands to watch.....and NOT just because Im so close to them. I agree 100%. _________________ 
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 5:51 pm
maybe everyone should just comply with eisley's request seeing how its their work on the tape and we should respect that whole heartly. we need to realize that eisley/boyd/dupree give us a lot more than most bands, like a daily journal of what they do. eisley is more interactive than most bands, so instead of looking at it as what we're NOT getting (and boyd never even said we culdnt see it, eisley just wanted too first) we should realize how much we do get. _________________ Bærinn minn/ Bærinn minn og þinn/ Sefur sæll à kyrrð/ Fellur mjöll/ Hljótt à húmi á jörð/ Grasið mitt/ Grasið mitt og þitt/ Geymir mold til vors/ bjork. |
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 9:35 pm
i wish hand held videocameras didn't take decent shows and reduce them to the worst piles of crap. I tell you, it's a phenominon. I always tape eisley's shows... and am usually excited about the show; I get home, pop the tape in...and am horrified. All bands say the same thing. _________________ EisleyWebGuy "The industrialists never saw the fruit of their own labor - Post Moderism, which I now proclaim as dead. Their forefathers digital revolutionists, have accelerated the final resolve by punctuating an end to our chaotic journey with a new manifesto and a new era: The Age of Meaning." (manifesto's sold separate) Welcome: Illuminists |
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 9:45 pm
boyd wrote: i wish hand held videocameras didn't take decent shows and reduce them
to the worst piles of crap. I tell you, it's a phenominon. I always tape eisley's shows... and am usually excited about the show; I get home, pop the tape in...and am horrified. All bands say the same thing. really? hrm that's weird... because I have a video camera that's pretty similar to yours.. it's a sony digi cam whatever, but it's got stereo sound etc etc etc, and i've always been impressed with the sound... I've only recorded songs from one live show with it, and it turned out pretty damned good... but yeah, I suppose it all depends on the venue and the audience and the performence eh? _________________ "strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others." ~Joseph Conrad --------------- 
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